Broad Gauge Wagons

W Irons / Suspension units

When scratchbuilding wagons, or building wagon kits that don't include suspension units, these can be a problem, mainly because of the larger wheel sizes used on the broad gauge. Most designers of W irons have gone for an axle spaced at 9.5mm below floor height. This is all very well for the majority of their customers using 3'1" wheels, but will result in buffer heights being way to high for much broad gauge stock. D&S models did a series of W irons with a 9mm spacing, and Comet models do 8.5mm spacing for 14mm wheels. The only alternative that I am aware of is the MJT low profile units MJT2293. These are designed as internal bearing units for RTR stock, so are very narrow for our purposes, and require 5.5mm collars each side cut from 2mm ID tube.

1.5 Ton Travelling Crane

Crane

A number of these cranes existed after conversion of the gauge in 1892. They were in the GWR/BR crane diagram book as no. 41, and cranes 340, 602 - 608, 611 were all on this diagram. There were others not mentioned in the diagram book (601, 610) that were very similar. At least one, and possibly many more were actually of broad gauge origin. Crane no. 603 was converted in 1892 from broad gauge crane no. 6688, which was originally Cornwall Railway no. 14961. It's match truck was originally Mite timber wagon no. 32567 built in 1883.
This is a broad gauge conversion of the ABS white metal kit, code 2/94. The platform and ends were cut in half, and an 8mm section made from oddments in the spares box (72XX bunker) inserted with low melt solder. Planks were then scribed across to match the existing sections. It still needs brakegear as I can't get the existing parts to fit, so I'll have to remake them. The matchtruck is still to convert.

Private Owner Wagon Sully No. 21

Sully No. 21

Scratchbuilt from plasticard to a drawing I made based on the well known photo of wagons at the Swindon dump. Wheels are assumed to be 3ft 0in open spoke on a 9ft 0in wheelbase. The rivets were individually formed from tiny offcuts of plastic rod placed with the point of a scalpel, and then flooded with polystyrene cement. As can be imagined, this is a very time consuming process, but the results are effective. The colour is just a wild guess, but looks rather nice. Later wagons were certainly in an all black livery, but a red/black livery such as this is entirely possible as early film emulsions were not sensitive to red light and so red just appeared dark. Transfers are BGS sheet F094. A resin casting of this vehicle is available from BGS member Douglas Johnson.

Sully Drawing

South Devon Railway Coal Wagon

South Devon Railway Coal Wagon

Another scratchbuild in plasticard from one of my drawings. The drawing is based on the photograph and details in "Taunton in the 1880s" of wagon no 10505, ex SDR no. 530. Wheels are 3ft 6in 8 spoke on a 9ft 9in wheelbase.

SDR Wagon

Bristol & Exeter Railway Open Wagon

B&E Large Coal Wagon

Several of these wagons can be seen in the photographs taken by James Date of Watchet. A number of them have one rounded end, and one flat end. Whether these are repairs to damaged ends, or whether they ran in pairs to transport long loads is unknown.

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's resin kit F401. Note that the instructions for this kit are wrong, stating that the splasher sides need cutting from a 43mm circle of plastic - this is for 7mm scale! For 4mm scale this should be a 24.5mm circle. Quite why you should need to make up these components for a resin kit is a bit of a mystery - surely they should be cast as part of the body, as the casting includes a floor. After quite a bit of fidling with tiny pieces of plasticard I gave up on this and designed and printed my own castings for the wheel splashers.

Bristol & Exeter Railway Large Coal Wagon

B&E Large Coal Wagon

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's etched kit F010. Probably the easiest wagon kit to build, although the corner strapping pieces are very fiddly. Wheels are BGS 4'0" 8 split spoke.

Bristol & Exeter Railway Fish Van

Bristol & Exeter Fish Van

Built from the York Modelmaking laser cut plastic kit. Also available from the Broad Gauge society as kit F301. This kit is based on the grounded body at Yatton station as featured in Broadsheet 39. This wagon is claimed by at least one source to be a horse box rather than a fish van.The model is not made from styrene as the fumes when laser cutting styrene are toxic, but a different plastic material (rowmark?) which cannot be built using standard solvent adhesives. A stronger solvent (Plastic Weld) or contact adhesive is required. The acrylic underframe required a considerable amount of material removing to give clearance for the wheels. MJT W irons are used as inside bearing units, with BGS 4' split spoke wheels The cosmetic W irons are cut from brass sheet, with BGS spring & axlebox castings F038 and buffers F032. The ventillation slats are from microstrip and extremely fiddly.

6-Wheel Iron Box Wagon

6 Wheel Box Wagon

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's etched kit F011. Wheels are Gibson 3'0" 8 open spoke.

Vale of Neath Railway Iron Coal Truck

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's etched kit F016. Wheels  are Gibson 3'0" 8 spoke.

Wooden Tilt Wagon

Wooden Tilt Wagon

Built from a resin copy of the Mike's Models/MRS kit plastic & whitemetal kit, produced by Ebay supplier kkea34k73. They are cast in a one piece mould, so the overflow on the back needs rubbing down - a tedious job. Recesses will need cutting in the back of the sides to clear the wheels, as on the original plastic sides. These could not be reproduced in the resin moulding as it only uses a single sided mould. Please note that the whitemetal underframes he produces will not fit the bodies, due to shrinkage (whitemetal copies are always slightly smaller than the originals). The upright body supports need to be filed away on the inside to almost nothing, or removed and replaced with scratchbuilt components from brass strip. The sideframes will also require thining to clear the wheels - the original kits were designed for a less than scale 26mm back-to-back

I managed to get hold of a couple of these long unavailable kits (Tilt/Box Wagon kit No. 121) and have made a 3D model of the kit in Gmax for printing on my Anycubic Photon printer. This has now been adjusted to accommodate scale wheels (BGS 4'0" 8 split spoke) using MJT 2292/2293 suspension units and 5.5mm spacing sleeves.

Wooden Tilt Wagon 3D Model
Wooden Tilt Wagon 3D Model

Wooden Box Wagon

Wooden Box Wagon 3D Model
Wooden Box Wagon 3D Model

This is the alternative build of the Mike's Models Tilt/Box Wagon kit No. 121. Similarly to the tilt wagon these need the sideframes thinning to clear scale wheels. I managed to get hold of a couple of these long unavailable kits and have made a 3D model of the kit in GMax for printing on my Anycubic Photon printer. This has now been adjusted to accommodate scale wheels (BGS 4'0" 8 split spoke) using MJT 2292/2293 suspension units and 5.5mm spacing sleeves.

Wooden Carriage Truck

Wooden Carriage Truck Wooden Carriage Truck Wooden Carriage Truck

This is built from the Mike's Models Carriage Wagon kit No. 124. I managed to get hold of a couple of these long unavailable kits and have made a 3D model of the kit in GMax for printing on my Anycubic Photon printer. This has now been adjusted to accommodate scale wheels (BGS 4'0" 8 split spoke) using MJT 2292/2293 suspension units and 5.5mm spacing sleeves.

1840 Iron Tilt Wagon

Iron Tilt Wagon

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's whitemetal kit F020. A lovely model, but a real beast to build as there is no clearance for wheels between the solebars. They need to be filed down until they are paper thin, and if you're lucky you wont go through or distort them. Wheels are Gibson 3'0" 8 open spoke.

1854 12 Ton Wooden Coal Wagon

GWR 1854 Coal Wagon

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's whitemetal kit F021, with the etched detailing kit, which has inside bearing suspension/compensation. Wheels are Gibson 3'6" 8 spoke.

Eassie's Patent Timber Trucks

Timber Truck

Built from the Broad Gauge Society's whitemetal kit F022. Wheels are Gibson 3'6" 8 spoke

GWR 6 Wheel Fish Wagon Dia S5

A conversion of the Falcon Brass kit WK102. It is apparent that this kit has been 'updated' in the last few years, as the instructions are totally at odds with the etchings provided, and brakegear is no longer supplied. The U section channel underframe is now just supplied as a flat strip with half etched details. Possibly this was intended to overlay onto some U section brass section. For our conversion, this is good, as at our period the underframe would use 'bulb' section (thickened slightly at the bottom) rather than U section. The chassis was cut in half lengthways, and new 32.75mm spacers added. Pinpoint axles were used for the outer wheelsets, but to give some sideplay on the centre wheels, these run in a brass tube sleeve between horns made from angle brass. The kit solebar etches were laminated onto some 2.5mm x 1mm brass angle. The body was also cut in half and 8.4mm inserted from 12thou (0.3mm) brass sheet to bring the width up to 38mm, this then scribed to match the existing planking.
36 of these were built to lot 420 in 1887/1888, and after gauge conversion became Diagram S5. Wheels are Gibson 3'6" Mansell.

GWR S5 1

GWR 3 plank wagon

GWR 3 plank wagon

GWR convertible 3 plank wagon. 200 were built to lot 345 in 1886 and 200 built to lot 369 in 1887. Built from the David Geen whitemetal kit W/004. Compensated with D&S models rocking W iron units DS501, used as inside bearing units. Wheels are Gibson 3'0" 8 spoke.

GWR 4 plank wagon

GWR 4 plank wagon

GWR convertible 4 plank wagon of lot 408 built in 1889. Converted from a Coopercraft plastic kit 1004. No compensation is used, just pinpoint axles running in brass bearing cups. Wheels are Gibson 3'0" 8 spoke.

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